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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: I think they are in fact a fungus gnat - it turns out I&#039;ve had two different varieties!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciaridae</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: I think they are in fact a fungus gnat &#8211; it turns out I&#8217;ve had two different varieties!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciaridae" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciaridae</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again!
I&#039;ve realized what I have are not fruit flies OR fungus gnats. I have these tiny oval black bugs that crawl/hop/fly out of the bins and head for the window. I also had what I thought were rove beetles but maybe these tiny things just mature into the &#039;rove bettles&#039;, but since vacuuming perhaps none have had a chance to grow.... I&#039;m at a loss...
Did you come across any sites or forums that might help me ID the critters?
Thanks!!!
Rosa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again!<br />
I&#8217;ve realized what I have are not fruit flies OR fungus gnats. I have these tiny oval black bugs that crawl/hop/fly out of the bins and head for the window. I also had what I thought were rove beetles but maybe these tiny things just mature into the &#8216;rove bettles&#8217;, but since vacuuming perhaps none have had a chance to grow&#8230;. I&#8217;m at a loss&#8230;<br />
Did you come across any sites or forums that might help me ID the critters?<br />
Thanks!!!<br />
Rosa</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comprehensive post! I&#039;m glad that even if I have to start over there&#039;s hope for saving a good number of the worms.
I too have tried various things - frankly I&#039;m exhausted - and while the population is way down it seems I can&#039;t eradicate them! I am now trying the biological solution - BTi and I can&#039;t imagine it&#039;s going to penetrate the entire bin properly.

I&#039;m going to take another look at the Worm Inns. 
Thanks again!
Rosa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comprehensive post! I&#8217;m glad that even if I have to start over there&#8217;s hope for saving a good number of the worms.<br />
I too have tried various things &#8211; frankly I&#8217;m exhausted &#8211; and while the population is way down it seems I can&#8217;t eradicate them! I am now trying the biological solution &#8211; BTi and I can&#8217;t imagine it&#8217;s going to penetrate the entire bin properly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to take another look at the Worm Inns.<br />
Thanks again!<br />
Rosa</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rosa,

We did actually throw out all of the old compost when we cleaned out the bin. Once the fungus gnats get going, they breed like crazy. So the whole bin was full of eggs, larva, and gnats. We tried all sorts of solutions first, including using those fly tape rolls and pinning them under the lid of our worm bin so the adults would die. We even bought this bacteria solution from an online garden store that is supposed to eat gnat larva without harming the worms. The stuff smelled horrible - our whole bin smelled like rancid water after we put it in. It didn&#039;t harm the worms at all, but it was not pleasant to have in the house. We also covered the bin with mosquito netting (actually no-see-um netting, which is even finer than mosquito netting) so we could at least keep the gnats from escaping into our apartment. Every time we had to feed the worms, we would have quite a time trying to get the bin outside without releasing all the gnats that were trapped inside the netting, so we could feed the worms outside, just to bring the whole contraption in again.

After trying all of that, we finally decided to start over with a clean bin. We dumped all of the compost out on our porch outside and sorted through to save as many worms and cocoons as possible. (The cocoons look sort of like round popcorn kernels. They are darker and rounder than the pupae I showed in the video on this post.) We put the worms in a large bowl and then gave the gnat-infested compost to friends who have an outdoor compost system and don&#039;t mind having the extra critters in it.

We took the worms inside and hand-rinsed them one at a time under tap water. I&#039;m sure it was traumatic for them. They did not like it at all, and unfortunately I lost a couple of them down the drain.

But after the rinsing was over, they didn&#039;t seem any worse for the wear.

We cleaned out our Rubbermaid tub in the bathtub and then filled it with fresh bedding and some new food. Like I mentioned in this post, it was not a good idea for us to do this right before leaving town for the weekend, because we hadn&#039;t put enough water in the bin, and the worms had dried out really badly by the time we came home a couple of days later. We had to add more food and water to the bin to get the habitat wet enough for them. But after that, they were fine and the survivors multiplied back to the original population pretty quickly.

A few weeks after I discovered more pupae (the ones in the video), I decided we would switch to a Worm Inn. Best decision ever! We have had the worms in their Worm Inn for over a year now and NEVER had problems with pupae, gnats, or fruit flies since. They seem quite happy in the Worm Inn and it makes really nice compost. It was the best investment we have made in this whole worm composting process. See our post about the Worm Inn for details: http://mattandangelblog.com/2010/06/yet-another-worm-update/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rosa,</p>
<p>We did actually throw out all of the old compost when we cleaned out the bin. Once the fungus gnats get going, they breed like crazy. So the whole bin was full of eggs, larva, and gnats. We tried all sorts of solutions first, including using those fly tape rolls and pinning them under the lid of our worm bin so the adults would die. We even bought this bacteria solution from an online garden store that is supposed to eat gnat larva without harming the worms. The stuff smelled horrible &#8211; our whole bin smelled like rancid water after we put it in. It didn&#8217;t harm the worms at all, but it was not pleasant to have in the house. We also covered the bin with mosquito netting (actually no-see-um netting, which is even finer than mosquito netting) so we could at least keep the gnats from escaping into our apartment. Every time we had to feed the worms, we would have quite a time trying to get the bin outside without releasing all the gnats that were trapped inside the netting, so we could feed the worms outside, just to bring the whole contraption in again.</p>
<p>After trying all of that, we finally decided to start over with a clean bin. We dumped all of the compost out on our porch outside and sorted through to save as many worms and cocoons as possible. (The cocoons look sort of like round popcorn kernels. They are darker and rounder than the pupae I showed in the video on this post.) We put the worms in a large bowl and then gave the gnat-infested compost to friends who have an outdoor compost system and don&#8217;t mind having the extra critters in it.</p>
<p>We took the worms inside and hand-rinsed them one at a time under tap water. I&#8217;m sure it was traumatic for them. They did not like it at all, and unfortunately I lost a couple of them down the drain.</p>
<p>But after the rinsing was over, they didn&#8217;t seem any worse for the wear.</p>
<p>We cleaned out our Rubbermaid tub in the bathtub and then filled it with fresh bedding and some new food. Like I mentioned in this post, it was not a good idea for us to do this right before leaving town for the weekend, because we hadn&#8217;t put enough water in the bin, and the worms had dried out really badly by the time we came home a couple of days later. We had to add more food and water to the bin to get the habitat wet enough for them. But after that, they were fine and the survivors multiplied back to the original population pretty quickly.</p>
<p>A few weeks after I discovered more pupae (the ones in the video), I decided we would switch to a Worm Inn. Best decision ever! We have had the worms in their Worm Inn for over a year now and NEVER had problems with pupae, gnats, or fruit flies since. They seem quite happy in the Worm Inn and it makes really nice compost. It was the best investment we have made in this whole worm composting process. See our post about the Worm Inn for details: <a href="http://mattandangelblog.com/2010/06/yet-another-worm-update/" rel="nofollow">http://mattandangelblog.com/2010/06/yet-another-worm-update/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey There!
I&#039;m trying desperately to save my worms from fungus gnats. Can you provide more details on washing the worms? Did you actually through out all compost and rinse the worms under tap water?
Thanks for posting the videos - I came across some weird brownish things that I eventually brushed off as some kind of seed, now I know they were the pupae that turned into a fungus gnat takeover. Showed up shortly after I potted new herbs in the kitchen.
:-(
Are you guys still worm compsting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey There!<br />
I&#8217;m trying desperately to save my worms from fungus gnats. Can you provide more details on washing the worms? Did you actually through out all compost and rinse the worms under tap water?<br />
Thanks for posting the videos &#8211; I came across some weird brownish things that I eventually brushed off as some kind of seed, now I know they were the pupae that turned into a fungus gnat takeover. Showed up shortly after I potted new herbs in the kitchen.<br />
 <img src='http://mattandangelblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Are you guys still worm compsting?</p>
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